adge wrote: Likewise Southampton when they went down cleared out the decks and started again. Many thought that getting rid of Pardew was a mistake and only 2 players from that era remain and 1 of them is Lallana.
He certainly is-and gets all the shit he deserves when offering long term contracts to Bell etc. I understand the point that these are all we can afford-True-doesn't mean they are any good and we can move forward with them!The Yid wrote:adge wrote: Likewise Southampton when they went down cleared out the decks and started again. Many thought that getting rid of Pardew was a mistake and only 2 players from that era remain and 1 of them is Lallana.
Pardew signed Lambert, Jaidi, Barnard, Fonte, Hammond, Murty, Harding, Connolly, Seaborne, Ostembor and Puncheon whilst they were in League 1 spending nearly £3 million in the process. How can you even compare that with our situation?? Where do you propose that we get this money from??
Thorn may have scouted the players you have quoted, but he will have scouted others that we have either bought and sold on, or ones that we wanted but financially were never capable of getting. We have those players because we have no fans, no assets and no stadium. You can moan all you like about the manager and his 'long term cronies' but they were the best we could get for the money we had.
Now does that lie with the manager.... or does it lies with the crap owners and apathetic fans that complain all the time - but inexplicably fail to see the connection between the money needed to buy players and the amount of revenue we get through the turnstiles?
I read on the CET website about the club witholding the rent for a second time. If it is the only way to get the rent negotiated then I fully support it. But fans think becuase its SISU in charge we should have to pay it because they are 'Evil'. if however Gary 'White Dhinsa' Hoffman had taken over they would be going apoplectic about the same thing.
We are getting shafted by SISU, shafted by the council, shafted by ACL and Alan Higgs.... but lets blame Thorn instead becuase he's an easy target.
adge wrote:He certainly is-and gets all the shit he deserves when offering long term contracts to Bell etc. I understand the point that these are all we can afford-True-doesn't mean they are any good and we can move forward with them!The Yid wrote:adge wrote: Likewise Southampton when they went down cleared out the decks and started again. Many thought that getting rid of Pardew was a mistake and only 2 players from that era remain and 1 of them is Lallana.
Pardew signed Lambert, Jaidi, Barnard, Fonte, Hammond, Murty, Harding, Connolly, Seaborne, Ostembor and Puncheon whilst they were in League 1 spending nearly £3 million in the process. How can you even compare that with our situation?? Where do you propose that we get this money from??
Thorn may have scouted the players you have quoted, but he will have scouted others that we have either bought and sold on, or ones that we wanted but financially were never capable of getting. We have those players because we have no fans, no assets and no stadium. You can moan all you like about the manager and his 'long term cronies' but they were the best we could get for the money we had.
Now does that lie with the manager.... or does it lies with the crap owners and apathetic fans that complain all the time - but inexplicably fail to see the connection between the money needed to buy players and the amount of revenue we get through the turnstiles?
I read on the CET website about the club witholding the rent for a second time. If it is the only way to get the rent negotiated then I fully support it. But fans think becuase its SISU in charge we should have to pay it because they are 'Evil'. if however Gary 'White Dhinsa' Hoffman had taken over they would be going apoplectic about the same thing.
We are getting shafted by SISU, shafted by the council, shafted by ACL and Alan Higgs.... but lets blame Thorn instead becuase he's an easy target.
adge wrote:Thorn is the luckiest manager we have ever had. He has got away with it and if it was anyone else they would have been hung from the Tesco stand long before the end of the season. He has had a big smoke screen shielding him because of Sisu and the off field antics etc. People need to wake up and smell the coffee and realise that what we have seen in the last 5-6 games of the season is how it is going to be in league 1.These players are not going to become world beaters and be hit with the "quality" stick all of a sudden. They are not good enough.Adding to it will make a slight improvement but the majority of the dross will still be here. No fire in the belly either and that all stems from the manager.
For a start-when Norwich went down the first thing they did after 2-3 games was get rid of Bryan Gunn. Lambert then signed Grant Holt and Simeon Jackson etc to replace an innefective striker in Cody McDonald-guess who ended up with him?. Likewise Southampton when they went down cleared out the decks and started again. Many thought that getting rid of Pardew was a mistake and only 2 players from that era remain and 1 of them is Lallana.
If people think that Thorn and his long term cronies of McPake,Bell,Baker,Hussey,Deegan,McSheffrey,McDonald,Platt, and the likes of Clarke,Thomas,Bigirimana etc are going to make an impression-think again.
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