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BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:58 am
by the boss
won't be too difficult to choose this years winner will it :lol:

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:45 am
by Roger Mellie
John Terry

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:52 am
by the boss
Roger Mellie wrote:John Terry



good shout ;-) May as well close the book now 8)

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:53 am
by plastic scouser
I think it'll be tough to pick the winner to be honest....4 in with a great shout...

Murray.
Wiggins.
Farah.
Ennis.


Even Rory Mcilroy as an outsider.....

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:00 am
by the boss
if the word ''personality'' is what it means, Murray is out 8)

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:31 am
by plastic scouser
Well Zara Philips, Nigel Mansell & Damon Hill have all won it in the past........& they're the definition of dull in the dullest of "sports"...

...Personally I'd give it to Wiggins......but as Hoy & Cav have both won it in recent years, I can't see a cylcist winning it again for a while...

I reckon Murray will win it narrowly over Farah...

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:31 am
by Burf
Richard Keogh ?

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:56 pm
by slobbydan sillibic
What about the raspberry with the springy legs...?

BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:45 pm
by Realist
I think Farah will win it, he epitomises what the Olympics are all about, and he's a nice guy.

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:11 pm
by Timbo
For me Wiggins' achievements are head and shoulders above anyone elses. I'd give it to him for winning the TDF alone but on top of that he won Paris-Nice, Tour de Romandie and Criterium du Dauphine. This year he's won every race he's targeted and every time trial he's competed in (excluding short prologues). I don't see Hoy and Cavendish having won it recently counting against him. Indeed in Cavs case its a clear indication in the popularity of road cycling in this country nowadays. He easily won last year with nearly 50% of the vote (four times as many as second place).

The success of so many olympians and paralympians may mean that the votes for those will get spread around. Farah is the one I think will do best and I expect will be in the top three with Wiggins and Murray. The latter could benefit from the Scots getting behind him.

I don't know how they are going to compile a list of just 10 candidates.

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:07 pm
by Lloydy
Wiggins, for the reasons named above, he's been so dominant and achieved what no other brit has in the TDF, and he won at the olympics on top of all that. He's also a 'personality' that represents his sport so well, whilst being a top bloke on top. I mean who else in their TDF speech starts with 'we'll draw the raffle numbers in minute'! Such an inspirational year.

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:39 pm
by AD
I can understand that feeling BUT Wiggins does need an entire team helping him during the road races to get those wins. OK, so do all footballers, cricketers etc but I think whereas those lead to good team results it is still possible for individuals to shine even if the team plays poorly. I don't think that is possible in road cycling.

I think Murray is favourite for the Olympics and the US Open, with Ennis because she'll get some bloke votes, Farah and Wiggins vying for second and third.

Personally I think Weir should have a really good chance but will get overlooked - 4 golds won by himself with most of the field trying to just stop him from winning during the races - phenomenal effort. But if the Paralympics is represented it'll almost certainly be Simmonds.

It is going to be a very difficult year - there are previous years where the likes of Peacock, Ainslie or even Storey and Pendleton would have won it with ease.

Next year watch it be won by Paul di Resta or something cos bugger all happens...

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:51 pm
by Timbo
I don't think you can penalise someone because they are part of a team... besides the reason Wiggins has won races is because he has dominated in the one discipline where team mates can't help - the time trial. Not only has he beaten those rivals who have matched him in the mountains but he has beaten (often comfortably) TT specialists like Martin and Cancellara who don't contend for the overall lead and often rest up in the days leading up to the TT.

Wiggins is still favourite with the bookies.

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:00 am
by AD
Timbo wrote:I don't think you can penalise someone because they are part of a team... besides the reason Wiggins has won races is because he has dominated in the one discipline where team mates can't help - the time trial. Not only has he beaten those rivals who have matched him in the mountains but he has beaten (often comfortably) TT specialists like Martin and Cancellara who don't contend for the overall lead and often rest up in the days leading up to the TT.

Wiggins is still favourite with the bookies.


I wasn't necessarily saying he should be ignored because it was a team effort, otherwise a vast majority of sportspeople would have to be ignored, and even those in individual sport owe a massive debt to trainers, support staff and family for being in a position to achieve that level of greatness.

Wiggins is a better all-rounder than say Cavendish who really does rely on teammates to leave him with a chance of getting that finish, but I still believe that what Wiggins gains in time trial he would lose in the mountains were it not for the help of teammates.

I'm not saying he's not an excellent sportsman, nor that he isn't a personality, I just believe that from a very strong field this year there are more worthy winners.

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:45 pm
by Timbo
If it was that easy to draft on mountains then how come there weren't more who finished together at the top of them? Its not as if you are only allowed to follow a teammate. Wiggins was one of only a few riders who consistenly finished in the top climbing group of each climb... and not only in Le Tour.

Farah may run as an individual but he benefits from drafting behind rivals during his races.

Of course there are benefits to having one of the best teams but there were plenty of other strong teams in the tour many of which weren't also trying to accomodate a sprinter. They also lost a man through a crash very early on.

BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:09 pm
by Roger Mellie
I think the fact the sportsmanship shown by wiggins (slowing the peloton after a crash involving a rival) puts him head and shoulders above anyone else.

Top of his game, not a media trained robot and an excellent sportsman.

To me, that's a winner.

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:39 pm
by Sky Blue Strawberry
I agree with Roger! :shock:

BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:22 am
by Roger Mellie
And you're right too!

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:01 am
by billythefish
Sky Blue Strawberry wrote:I agree with Roger! :shock:


Worryingly so do I!

Re: BBC Sports Personality of the Year award

PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:26 pm
by plastic scouser
If I ever meet a 'gamesmaker' I'm gonna punch them on the nose....

.... You were a volunteer car park attendant ... Get fucking over it.