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Coleman Out?

Sack him now
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19%
Keep him until end of the season
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Keep him until Jan
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Who else is there?
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25%
Keep him indefinately
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33%
 
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Coleman Out?

Postby Chris » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:46 pm

I'm 50-50 now, i just don't think we're playing good football at the moment. I'd personally give him the Xmas period to see if we can pick up.
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby Joe » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:53 pm

Don't see them often enough to really pass judgment but when I have seen them recently we have been terrible.

Don't see who else there is though?
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby Chris » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:09 pm

Curbishley or Shearer are 2 out of work that i'd like.
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby The Yid » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:46 pm

The usual knee-jerk bollocks that makes us a laughing stock as a club.

Not had a top 6 finish in 40 years, and for the last 9 years since relegation we've changed managers every year...

We will never succeed until we have some fucking stability. :roll:
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby ccfctommy » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:08 pm

I don't think a lot of people can do a lot better than the squad and the finances we have. Also sacking a manager you will have to pay him off, have a couple of games with the caretaker in charge, new manager signed (with possibly compo paid to a club if required) and then time for the new manager to see which players he likes/dislikes and which ones he brings in (or sells).

Putting it short it'll be expensive and time consuming to change the manager. I'll say stay with Coleman until the end of the season.
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby Roger Mellie » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:21 pm

You can't polish a turd. Not even sir alex could get these muppets playing properly.

I saw keep Coleman. Sack the fucking players.

Clear the decks, fuck off the lot of them and keep the hungry young pros. They can't do any worse.

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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby skyblue » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:55 pm

I'm disappointed with recent results and performances, todays being the worst as it is a game I felt we would win, but I still think Coleman is capable of turning the results around. There is no point changing managers now, although I feel if we are still spiralling downwards by January Ransons hand may be forced.
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby bolix » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:31 pm

It's a depressing cycle......we get a new manager, there's a brief spark of optimism but before long we're looking to get rid and start all over. Maybe the problem lies elsewhere...... :?:
What I do not like about Coleman is the terrible football........I could forgive the results but not the fact that the players cannot pass, make themselves available to receive one and play as a unit. I know their confidence is shot but until they learn these basics and have it drummed into them how the fuck are they gonna win a match?
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby king chillout » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:39 pm

How the fuck can anyone seriously think keeping Coleman as manager is going to do any good ?

Don't any of you fuckers look at the league table ? 5 wins in 30 games is fucking scandalous and there is a good chance we could be bottom 3 by the end of Tuesday night. I don't think I can stand any more of this "progress".

Did you see our defence today ? Nearly all Coleman buys and they looked like fucking amatuers....and you silly bastards want to give Coleman more money !!!!!!!!!!

If any other side had been on the run City have, we would all be thinking relegation, but because it's City and Coleman, you idiots won't face reality. And as for saying stick with him because there isn't anyone else........fuck me, there are hundreds of people in football who would be gagging to take the job.

If Coleman had any guts or shame he would resign. His record is worse than Peter Reids !
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby Sky Blue Strawberry » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:06 pm

I can see why there is an increasing clamour for CC's head, but agree with Ian that sacking managers is a cycle which we have been guilty of at the club for too long. I also agree with Bolix though, the football is atrocious to watch. I'm hoping the return of Clingan and hopefully some shrewd buys in the January window will see us ok this season. I do worry that Westwood and Best are almost certain to go though, I'm sure Westwood was laughing in disbelief at his own defence today!

However if we lose badly on Wednesday and then again against Peterborough on Saturday, the crowd will almost certainly turn on Coleman and this just might force Ranson's hand
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby Sick Boy » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:34 pm

Sky Blue Strawberry wrote:
Westwood and Best are almost certain to go though, I'm sure Westwood was laughing in disbelief at his own defence today!


That he was! I also enjoyed seeing CC call the referee a 'fucking wanker'. :D
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby The Englander » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:55 pm

So how long do you stick with Coleman before you decide he's seemingly not got any idea anymore? Stability is great in theory, but only if you can see some sort of hope - today's display had no plus points (As have a fair few this season, including Blackpool away), and Coleman just seems to stand on the sidelines looking like some sort of model for Littlewoods catalogue, chewing his gum, and all to often looking like a rabbit in the headlights. It doesn't matter how poor the personnel (Though I believe we actually have enough decent players to make a decent showing in this division), a total lack of effort is unacceptable. Scunthorpe, as with so many opponents, wanted the ball so much more than we did.
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby bolix » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:36 am

Sick Boy wrote:
Sky Blue Strawberry wrote:
Westwood and Best are almost certain to go though, I'm sure Westwood was laughing in disbelief at his own defence today!


That he was! I also enjoyed seeing CC call the referee a 'fucking wanker'. :D


I think I saw him bang his head on the dugout.....who's the real "wanker" :roll:
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby the boss » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:03 am

I think he should go [smilie=icon_ashamed.gif]
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby the boss » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:04 am

I think he should stay ;-)
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby skybluedai » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:13 am

Not expecting anything from the Newcastle game. Then again you cant tell. I've been thinking about binnin it for a while now. If we do not beat peterborough on saturday,i believe it will be the final nail in the coffin for me and my Welsh buddy CC.
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby adge » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:23 am

bolix wrote:
Sick Boy wrote:
Sky Blue Strawberry wrote:
Westwood and Best are almost certain to go though, I'm sure Westwood was laughing in disbelief at his own defence today!


That he was! I also enjoyed seeing CC call the referee a 'fucking wanker'. :D


I think I saw him bang his head on the dugout.....who's the real "wanker" :roll:

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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby Timbo » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:29 am

People rightly moan about the defence yesterday but the last two games they had played well even taking into account they are new to each other and hadn't played much football this season. (Grasping for excuses) The way everyone played yesterday I wondered if it wasn't just Bell and McIndoe who had been suffering with illness this week.

The style of football is dreadful and I wonder if this is at the heart of where the rot set in. I remember at the time Dowie left the football was ugly and remembering how surprised I was that in Colemans first game in charge the amount of passing football the team were playing. Somewhere along the line Coleman seems to have come to the conclusion that pretty football isn't going to get us promoted. Perhaps he is incapable of coaching the agricultural style we have currently adapted.

I was all for judging Coleman at the end of the season but that was under the assumption that we wouldn't be in a relegation scrap. If things carry on as they are then he has to go sooner rather than later but it wouldn't surprise me if things get better. Yesterdays performance will hopefully be the bottom of the trough and our worsening league position might spur on the players to give that bit extra.
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby SamSamMan » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:38 am

Hearing Coleman speak after yesterdays game, he sounded like a desperate man for the first time. I have similar hopes to you Timbo, that was hopefully the bottom of the trough and things won't get any worse. But if they do...he has to go I'm afraid. We are playing as bad a style of football I have seen at city, confidence is low and he is not getting the best out of those players. We should be comfortably mid-table with that squad (which is progress from last season)
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Re: Coleman Out?

Postby adge » Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:46 am

Timbo wrote:
People rightly moan about the defence yesterday but the last two games they had played well even taking into account they are new to each other and hadn't played much football this season. (Grasping for excuses) The way everyone played yesterday I wondered if it wasn't just Bell and McIndoe who had been suffering with illness this week.

The style of football is dreadful and I wonder if this is at the heart of where the rot set in. I remember at the time Dowie left the football was ugly and remembering how surprised I was that in Colemans first game in charge the amount of passing football the team were playing. Somewhere along the line Coleman seems to have come to the conclusion that pretty football isn't going to get us promoted. Perhaps he is incapable of coaching the agricultural style we have currently adapted.

I was all for judging Coleman at the end of the season but that was under the assumption that we wouldn't be in a relegation scrap. If things carry on as they are then he has to go sooner rather than later but it wouldn't surprise me if things get better. Yesterdays performance will hopefully be the bottom of the trough and our worsening league position might spur on the players to give that bit extra.
I thought when we lost last time(2 seasons ago) at Scunthorpe that at that point we were rock bottom. It seems we still havn't moved on.
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