AD wrote:Not really. Personal opinion has nothing to do with any of this - it is the collective council/ACL board and as SISU should themselves admit board decisions have to be assumed to be made on the facts regardless of personal grievances or opinions. And if that is admissable how far do you go? Could they ask for e-mails/letters from council tax payers/residents etc as the council members supposedly are meant to follow their wishes? It'd just be silly and there would be so much to go through no decision would ever be reached.
And of course if that is the case, shouldn't SISU have to reveal EVERYTHING about who our investor owners are, all the information regarding a new stadium, the administration and also the personal opinions they have of the council/ACL/Higgs/fans etc. Looking at the personal opinions of the SISU board you could argue they were clearly trying to fleece the council if you use their lawyers argument. As you say If there's nothing to hide, the documents should be revealed. If there's something to hide, the documents should definitely be revealed.
Besides which they were put in late, and if you start submitting stuff late all the time all you'll end up with is loads of cases being postponed to consider new evidence and the winners will just always end up being those with the deepest pockets or legal qualifications. That's not justice and is IMO what they were trying to do here, just get the case delayed so more and more costs are incurred by the council.
And the idea they were being screwed over by the council going behind their backs when the council/ACL had no legal requirement to inform them they were doing so as it was to financially protect an asset they part owned is just laughable considering SISU were doing exactly the same thing but for something they DIDN'T own and had caused the action in the first place by withholding money.
When confronted with the fact they had information that hadn't be disclosed and didn't need to be, suddenly they decide keeping quiet is a good thing. Had it been the other way round you can guarantee their lawyers would be calling foul. The fact they even decided to bring this up in court does start you wondering just how intelligent these lawyers that 'batter people' are.
Classic bully behaviour - terrorise everyone and when you get a smack in the chops yourself run crying to the authority figure claiming you're being victimised.
IF there is any justice, SISU's case will be thrown out. The first judge had the right idea when he systematically picked their case to pieces on so many levels that I'm still perplexed how the second judge even granted a JR.
The Yid wrote:AD wrote:Not really. Personal opinion has nothing to do with any of this - it is the collective council/ACL board and as SISU should themselves admit board decisions have to be assumed to be made on the facts regardless of personal grievances or opinions. And if that is admissable how far do you go? Could they ask for e-mails/letters from council tax payers/residents etc as the council members supposedly are meant to follow their wishes? It'd just be silly and there would be so much to go through no decision would ever be reached.
And of course if that is the case, shouldn't SISU have to reveal EVERYTHING about who our investor owners are, all the information regarding a new stadium, the administration and also the personal opinions they have of the council/ACL/Higgs/fans etc. Looking at the personal opinions of the SISU board you could argue they were clearly trying to fleece the council if you use their lawyers argument. As you say If there's nothing to hide, the documents should be revealed. If there's something to hide, the documents should definitely be revealed.
Besides which they were put in late, and if you start submitting stuff late all the time all you'll end up with is loads of cases being postponed to consider new evidence and the winners will just always end up being those with the deepest pockets or legal qualifications. That's not justice and is IMO what they were trying to do here, just get the case delayed so more and more costs are incurred by the council.
And the idea they were being screwed over by the council going behind their backs when the council/ACL had no legal requirement to inform them they were doing so as it was to financially protect an asset they part owned is just laughable considering SISU were doing exactly the same thing but for something they DIDN'T own and had caused the action in the first place by withholding money.
When confronted with the fact they had information that hadn't be disclosed and didn't need to be, suddenly they decide keeping quiet is a good thing. Had it been the other way round you can guarantee their lawyers would be calling foul. The fact they even decided to bring this up in court does start you wondering just how intelligent these lawyers that 'batter people' are.
Classic bully behaviour - terrorise everyone and when you get a smack in the chops yourself run crying to the authority figure claiming you're being victimised.
IF there is any justice, SISU's case will be thrown out. The first judge had the right idea when he systematically picked their case to pieces on so many levels that I'm still perplexed how the second judge even granted a JR.
Here's an idea... Why don't we have EVERYTHING in the open. From CCC/ACL, SISU, previous owners in fact everything pretty much from when the PL began . Only then will everything come out - I for one would love to see the lot.
Reading your latest sermon on how the mighty ACL/CCC have acted so honourably in the face of the evil SISU is pathetic.
You can't even look at something without twisting it into bring the owners fault.
Let's see how you do with the latest news... I imagine you may need a few days. No doubt you'll brush it off as a harmless error, and blame SISU for it in some way.
Can't wait.
Burf wrote:I'd like to pint (sic) out another error too.![]()
yadda yadda yadda...
Had it up to here with all this - long time ago. Lets just round both set of ACL & SISU **** up
& execute them in the centre circle at the Ricoh ffs. A football coup d'etat.
Then we can go back to concentrating on being a really quite sub-mediocre football club that no-one
else is remotely interested in.
Colour me bored.
billythefish wrote:Thanks AD but have you got RPs number? I want to get the garden sorted for a BBQ on Monday!
dog rout 21 wrote:I'm not so sure, I really wouldn't be surprised if SISU eventually built a new ground, think they've been holding off to try and get the Ricoh on the cheap but if it gets to a point where that definitely, definitely can't happen I wouldn't bet against it. Obviously it's a fairly stupid idea considering there's a fully functioning mega stadium sitting empty but I fucking hate the Ricoh so I'd be well happy, might even finally get my clock
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