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Hermanator

Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:39 pm GMT

by Roger Mellie (Posted Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:39 pm)
Sssssssshhhhhh

Don't say that, you'll shatter the illusion.

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how many points

Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:05 pm GMT

by Burf (Posted Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:05 pm)
Sorry.
That should have said Thorn should quit.
Adams IN

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Best TV show of 2012 already.....

Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:35 pm GMT

by king chillout (Posted Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:35 pm)

Realist wrote:The thing is Chill, I understand the need for the authorities to vet people wishing to adopt, and it cannot happen overnight, but why does it take so long? It surely shouldn't take 3 years to have checked the background of two potential applicants before they can see they would or wouldn't make suitable parents? There are way too many kids in need of help for the process to take as long as it does, surely 6 months is sufficient enough time to have heckled all applicants out?

We sent in the application to be considered as adopters on Jan 2nd 2009. We didn't get a reply for 6 months.

Once accepted ( although not approved to adopt) we had to wait to go on a course which was held every Monday for six weeks. This was basically preparing you for what it's like to adopt, why the kids are in the adoption process and what "special" little/big problems the kids will have because of their shitty upbringing by parents no better than animals.
We look at various cases from mild to sadistic and look at how the development of the child can be hindered by their experiences.
The course also includes info on why kids do the things they do and what they need to experience to become normal happy children.

I was dreading the course as I knew it was going to contain a lot of PC bollocks, but once that was strained out I actually loved it ! It should be mandatory for every prospective parent to attend. Kids do not grow up healthy and happy by mistake. There is plenty a parent can do to ensure their children turn out OK and thankfully there have been loads of people studying children so you can find out about what works and what doesn't.

After the course is finished is when all the interviewing and probing of your personal life begins. We were warned that a lot of people get pissed off with this, but we didn't think it was too bad. They want to know if you have a social/family circle who will be able to back you up when help is needed. You have to have people who will vouch for you and they WILL be interviewed. There is tons of other stuff they need to know and they do ask some awkward questions about your private life. If you are some kind of arsey fuck who can't understand they need to know they aren't giving free kids away to monsters, it will piss you off. Anyone with an ounce of sense will understand why they ask the questions they do.

After that, they will consider whether you are suitable or not. A lot of people drop out by this stage. Various reasons including getting pregnant, fed up with waiting and scared shitless by what is really needed to adopt a kid. It's all quite eye-opening and I have to admit that I knew next to fuck all about the adoption process when we started. If you think you are going to be handed some angel faced baby and live happily ever after....think again.

All this is needed to see if you are suitable to "go to panel". Which means that a group of people decide if you can be approved to adopt and how many children you can adopt. This ends with a meeting before the panel when they tell you yea or nay. To be fair, it's unusual to be put before a panel if they aren't 99% sure you will be approved. But it has happened.

Our panel was supposed to be in early August of 2009 but got pushed back to late September. We were approved to adopt one child between the ages of two and five.

Then you wait.....and it seems like nothing is happening.

But behind the scenes your social worker is looking for children who match what you have been approved for, what you have said you are looking for and, believe it or not, that they look like you !

We didn't mind if we adopted a boy or girl or how old they were. But we did ask not to be considered for a disabled child or one with severe learning difficulties. This was because we were quite honest and said we knew we would find it hard dealing with a normal healthy kid, let alone one with even more problems. Most kids in the adoption system have some sort of delay in their learning, speaking or walking, just because they haven't been looked after properly, so we expected that our child would not be perfect and was prepared for that.

Our first child that we were interviewed about was a lad from Leeds. That was in March 2010. We were quite enthusiastic about him, but our social worker warned us away as she said she didn't quite feel he was right for us. We decided to go with her feelings as she was the expert, not us.

Each child comes with a fully detailed file about their life so far and everything you could want to know about their situation, parents and health. This is when you realise how fucked up people can be. To know that you have turned a child down and probably condemned them to more misery than they have already suffered is not a nice feeling. I still think about the first little lad and wonder what has become of him.

Months passed by and we got offered more kids, most of whom were totally unsuitable for us and I still have no idea why they were even considered by the adoption services in the first place ?
Most of the time you just hear nothing from the adoption people. It actually feels like they might have forgotten about you.

July 2011.....

Finally get "offered" a kid that seems perfect for us, but the problem is that another couple are also being interviewed about them. Unfortunately we lose out. Not surprisingly, we start getting a bit pissed off and begin losing hope.

August 2011...

Amazingly a social worker in Rugby has been waiting to see if Me and Mrs Chillout were turned down for the July child because she has a kid we might be interested in !!!

One look at his picture and his file and we know this is the kid we were meant to adopt.
Our people talk to his people and bingo, it's a done deal......except the spanner gets thrown......his foster parents say they want to adopt him at the last minute. The rules are that if a foster parent wants to adopt a child in their care, they must be considered by the adoption people first.

It's a fucker. When Mrs Chillout phoned me at work to give me the bad news I actually cried. We decide there and then that if this one fails, we are giving up. It's too heartbreaking to go through it again, and we are not getting any younger. We have lives and we can't just keep putting everything on hold.

October 2011...

The foster parents are rejected for two reasons.....they are too old and by the time they become approved adopters it is thought that the child will be unsuitable for them. Great news for us, bad news for them.

November 2011...

we have to meet Child X and the foster parents who as you can imagine are not exactly happy to see us. In fact they really don't like us. Their behaviour is fucking odd to say the least and they quite quickly start telling their social worker that me and Mrs Chillout are the wrong choice. Bitter and twisted is not the word.

The first part of November is spent meeting child X every day, sometimes this involves taking him back to our house and taking him back at night. We have to feed him, change him, play with him, bath him and put him to bed.
Child X has a brother who is four and with the same foster parents. They are going to be split up. The elder brother is to be adopted a week before we adopt Child X.

November 17th..

adoption day ! We pick Child X up at 2:00 pm and that is that.

After ten weeks we can apply to the courts for a hearing in which we are given the legal right to change his surname and legally adopt him.

And that is why it takes so long.

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X-Men: First Class...........

Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:37 pm GMT

by king chillout (Posted Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:37 pm)
I avoided this because the first three attempts at the X-Men were pretty poor. But I got around to watching it last night and was very pleasantly surprised !

Quite looking forward to the follow up.

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BBC

Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:42 pm GMT

by Des (Posted Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:42 pm)
I assumed it's a 6th form project?

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its back

Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:43 pm GMT

by plastic scouser (Posted Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:43 pm)
Well the Marine FC game is off due to a frozen pitch.....

.....so I guess I'll have to tune into City getting thumped at the shitty ricoh instead....

....0-3.

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That MILK SNATCHER....

Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:11 pm GMT

by Burf (Posted Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:11 pm)
They don't.
They aren't.

See that was easy.

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Rallying call!

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:56 pm GMT

by Burf (Posted Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:56 pm)
Sensible? I think it's the most naive, crass piece of shite I've read since, oh I dunno, this morning.

Bollocks - this club needs to get well & truly flushed down the shitter - its kill or cure time...if dropping to the very bottom of the entire football league is what it takes to stop this cycle of Groundhog Season then bring it on.

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classic city. .

Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:02 am GMT

by the boss (Posted Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:02 am)

adge wrote:
king chillout wrote: and a win going into the game against Ipswich meant we might have been able to see light at the end of the tunnel. !

the light was the train coming

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The Transfer rumours thread

Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:14 pm GMT

by Burf (Posted Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:14 pm)
Does any of this really matter though?
I'd say tonights 4min capitulation demonstrates again that no, it doesn't. Can we just stop now please - wind the bloody club up & be done with it.

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Brace Yourself....

Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:27 am GMT

by Uncle Monty (Posted Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:27 am)
Seriously, do these twats really believe that anything they do or say will ever have any bearing on anything? Deluded pillocks.

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this site

Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:59 am GMT

by bolix (Posted Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:59 am)
When Ccfc cease to be the whole year will be like the weekend just gone.
No stress, no disappointments, no waste of effort and no inane posts from boss. I'm a fan.

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Can Englands cricket team...

Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:40 pm GMT

by dog rout 21 (Posted Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:40 pm)
I blame burf.

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SISU....

Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:32 pm GMT

by The Englander (Posted Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:32 pm)

king chillout wrote:
The Englander wrote:You mean the same as at every club when results aren't going the way supporters want them to?

Not these supporters. Both been season ticket holders since the late eighties through thick and thin and even thinner. Saw one down the village the other day and was shocked when he told me he couldn't be arsed to go and his mate had also stopped going.

These are the people I always thought would die in their seats at City because quite frankly they just didn't have anything else to do on a Saturday.

Season ticket holders too? You mean the same as at every club when results aren't going the way supporters want them to? If you need a prime example, try checking out Newcastle's attendances through the lean years....

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What might have been.........

Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:44 am GMT

by Roger Mellie (Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:44 am)
I fucking hate Liverpool. Utter ****. 96 was not enough.

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Coventry Vs Middlesboro

Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:25 pm GMT

by adge (Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:25 pm)

The Englander wrote:
adge wrote:Didn't Bell have a good half aswell! Best half i,ve seen him have in 3 years.

Are you including his dismal miss in that sentence?

Thought that would be pointed out! It is Bell remember .

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ssshhh. . .

Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:41 pm GMT

by AD (Posted Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:41 pm)
AT is definitely showing the same faults of so many of his predecessors which ultimately led to their downfall - an inability to have a plan B, and thus an inability to affect a game in progress. We never look like getting back from a losing situation because we just keep asking the same questions we've been asking for the rest of the game/season. There's no variety to upset the opposition rhythm and make them adapt to what we're doing.

Coleman got found out that he was overly cautious, so opposition managers started to push up and we conceded goals. Boothroyd's hoofball got found out after a dozen or so games and became totally ineffective, and AT's diamond/passing game has been found out too.

IMO it's part of the reason why bringing in a new manager has a 'honeymoon' period. Part of it is because the players put that bit more in to impress the new guy, but also that the opposition's scouting of our tactics becomes worthless and there's a great deal more uncertainty in how they should approach the game tactically. Last year the players showed at the start they could play hoofball effectively, and at the end the pass and move style, so they are adaptable.

Perhaps it's time to employ joint managers- one like AB, the other like AT. At the end of each game a coin is tossed to see whose method we'll be starting with in the next game. If after 70 minutes we're losing that person has to concede control to the other manager and we change the way we play for the remainder. Keeps the opposition guessing and asks more questions of them.

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Smokin Joe Frazier

Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:54 pm GMT

by bolix (Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:54 pm)
ITV 4, Rumble in the Jungle on now.
Rope a dope - fantastic fight.

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Andy Morrell

Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:49 pm GMT

by adge (Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:49 pm)

haggis wrote:He was fucking shit, but thats a class goal he scored tonight!!

Indeed! Quality goal-but shit player and always will be!

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Transfer Rumours 2011/2012

Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:31 pm GMT

by adge (Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:31 pm)
Will fit right in here then!

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GMK'ers in bitch-slap fest....

Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:55 pm GMT

by king chillout (Posted Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:55 pm)
I took a look at the GMK forum last night.....it looks like they are busy fighting among themselves over the SISU debacle.

I'm more than happy to see those arseholes fall out with each other, but over SISU ? I can't believe they can summon up the enthusiasm !

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Right oh Jordan!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:03 pm GMT

by plastic scouser (Posted Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:03 pm)
I was a top class centre midfielder back in the day.......I was at my peak at 15 years old, scored 15 league goals in a 26 game season for my club, scored 5 for the county XI in 8 games....used to cover about 10 miles per game, box-to-box, only got cautioned a couple times that season too....

By 1988/89 I barely made training due to the fact I had become nocturnal & was far too busy chasing raves all over the south of england.........a tragic loss to the game.....

.....My regular footballing days finally came to an end in 1991 when I was sent off in a sunday pub league game for head-butting a big ugly bruiser & thug of a centre-half who'd spent a good 60 mins of the game trying to break my skinny legs as I skipped past him time & time again.....

.....Unfortunately, I bumped into him a couple weeks later when playing in the pub pool league.....I whooped his talentless fat arse at pool too ......but he did kick my head in in the car park afterwards....

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